In density evolution we proceed as follows: we first let the blocklength tend to infinity and then subsequently increase the number of iterations. This limit has the advantage of being easy to compute. In practice we proceed closer to the opposite: for a fixed block length we run the decoder until no further progress is made. We can then ask: How does the performance change if we increase the blocklength? For transmission over the binary erasure channel it is known that both limits give the same threshold. More generally, we get the same limit regardless whether we take the limit jointly or subsequently, conditioned only on the fact that both blocklength and the number of iterations tends to infinity. The general case seems harder. We consider simple quantized message-passing decoders and transmission over the BSC. Starting with an idea by Burshtein and Miller, we show how expansion arguments can in some cases be used to prove the desired result.